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Printing HDPE onto copperWednesday, April 18. 2007Trackbacks
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Actually, I can think of this being of great use to people doing etching on PCBs.
I do inkjet transfer etching. That is, I print out a negative of my board with an inkjet printer to special paper. Using heat, I transfer that ink to the copper. Then, I use a special foil that contains a plastic that binds to the ink.
The result is a copper clad board with plastic adhering to it. I put this in some ferric chloride for a couple minutes, and the plastic resists the etch, protecting the copper underneath.
So, this could potentially be very useful. I could directly print HDPE into a copper clad board, then just dip it in FeCl3 and cut a couple of steps from my process.
How hard is the HDPE to remove? It seems like the real trick here is that, of course, you have to expose the solder pads after etching. Could you remove the plastic with acetone?
"Could you remove the plastic with acetone?"
Not HDPE. In fact, it's what drugstore nailpolish remover bottles are made of. It takes some pretty esoteric solvents to dissolve PE or PP.
I expect a soldering iron would work pretty well, though it'd be a bit messy.
I dont know why you think that reprap is limited to capa... we just selected that for early testing. that being said, great idea! this bodes very well. we're on the same team here, lol.
you should try ABS next. that would be the ultimate. it is something you can dissolve with acetone. (similar to the normal finish of home pcb production... clean the resist off the pads)
***I dont know why you think that reprap is limited to capa...***
I'm not going discuss the limitations placed on the RepRap project.
***we're on the same team here, lol.***
Yeah, right. lol.
***you should try ABS next.***
At your suggestion, I repeated the experiment with both ABS and HPP. Neither would stick to the copper plate.
BTW, I was able to get the HDPE off with side cutters.
Hey Forrest, that was interesting about the HDPE nearly instantly contracting. I remember somewhere hearing that some plastics would do that at a particular temperature. If you try smooshing it before it contracts, is there any stickyness? I was wondering if it would stick at all if extruded and smeared (I'm thinking it might smoosh and smear a little :) forgive the technical terms, but I'm hoping you're familiar with them, lol. Just wondering bud, you do some wicked neat stuff.
Thanks, Bart. It's always nice to be appreciated. When I did the ABS and HPP I did use a wooden spatula handle to mash them against the copper to see if I could get more contact area. It didn't help. As for the HDPE, I didn't touch it at all, so I can't report on it's stickiness or otherwise.
Would it be possible to roughen the surface using sand paper? This could help increase the surface area for bonding and the grooves could resist contraction. Although there would be the problem of getting the material off.
I expect that I will try that when I get around to doing more work with HDPE/Copper bonding.
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